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‘Cult’ won’t sway many but should be opposed – PM

Prime Minister Dr. Ralph Gonsalves (File photo).

KINGSTOWN, St. Vincent – Prime Minister Dr. Ralph Gonsalves believes that a local “cult” will not sway many Vincentians but citizens should oppose its practices.

“I don’t know how widespread this particular cult is or these practices. But, it is in the interest of all right-thinking persons that those kinds of practices be opposed, be denounced, be criticised,” he said in response to a reporter’s question at a press conference on Tuesday.

“I am confident, though, that the people in our country would never, in any significant numbers, succumb to these kinds of strange importations, which come from some of the most extreme elements in the developed world. I don’t see that happening,” he further said.

Gonsalves, a Catholic, said it was interesting that the question was being asked during Holy Week, which, he said, is the most important week in Christian civilisation.

He noted that large crowds followed Jesus Christ when He entered Jerusalem on a donkey on what some Christians today commemorate as Palm Sunday.

“We mustn’t forget that when He and Barabbas were put before the people, the people said overwhelmingly they wanted Barabbas. Free Barabbas; that was Barabbas party that was mobilised,” Gonsalves said.

“I don’t want to be complacent and say that satanic practices are not a danger; the cult’s practices, clearly, they are and we have to oppose them. But the strength and solidity of our belief in what I have described as the most important week in Christian civilisation, I don’t see any of the cult prospering,” he said.

“People would get injured through them, some people would suffer. I urge all of them to read the Bible and particularly read the story from Palm Sunday to the Sunday which followed, which is the Resurrection,” Gonsalves said.

Many Christians around the world, including in St. Vincent and the Grenadines, where the days are national holidays, will commemorate the death of Jesus Christ on Friday – Good Friday — and his resurrection on Sunday — Easter Sunday.

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23 thoughts on “‘Cult’ won’t sway many but should be opposed – PM

  1. Can someone remind me of the catholic stance on divorce?Is this a Catholic speaking out against cults,or a leader of a cult of personality trashing a competing cult?

    Posted by Joe | April 4, 2012, 04:04
    • I have no idea what Ralph is talking about.. can some expound..what was the question?

      Posted by Wesley Davis | April 4, 2012, 09:04
      • There is a satanic cult creeping into SVG..it was in the newspaper..cant remember which one, either News or Searchlight…and from what i read, once a person goes to the cult and become a member, the leader controls that person. There so much more to read. All the Churches and the pastors of SVG need to come together and pray and pull down the wickedness of the enemy…We are serving one God so we should not be divided.

        Posted by Necole | April 4, 2012, 15:13
  2. I thought he practiced obeah for the Lord

    Posted by Joe | April 4, 2012, 04:05
  3. All religions were cults before they became formal religions, weren’t they? Including Christianity?

    Posted by Darrien | April 4, 2012, 09:33
  4. I am missing the point here…, and maybe I am the only one. If so, please accept my apologies for the inquisition I am about to pose.
    What is the point of this story?
    What is the question that the Prime Minister is responding to?
    What is this “cult” about, and what activities are they involved with?
    What about the cult Vincentians should resist?
    Could someone please enlighten me?
    Most of us in the diaspora are reading in the dark and would need some light/clarification.
    Thank you.

    Posted by DWells | April 4, 2012, 09:54
  5. Kenton, as a TRAINED JOURNALIST, why would you post the STATEMENTS of Dr. Gonsalves without PUBLISHING the QUESTION posed to him by a LOCAL REPORTER at the PRESS CONFERENCE?

    Your READERSHIP would not have a CLUE of what Dr. Gonsalves is making REFERENCE to without the stated question of the reporter.

    Come on Kenton, you know BETTER, so DO BETTER.

    Posted by VINCY POWA (@VINCYPOWA) | April 4, 2012, 12:00
  6. Gonsalves is supposedly married twice. The first union between Gonsalves and a Jamaican lady produced two Mulato children. As he claims to be a good Catholic boy, is his marraige to his current second wife legal in the eyes of the Catholic Church, or is this second woman a concubine?

    Just asking out of interest, I really know very little about this subject.

    Donkey Gonsalves himself was born a bastard and remained a bastard all his life. Does anyone think that this caused him to feel inferior when growing up, which went on to his acting out latterley a superiority mode, especialy claiming superior inteligence to all others.

    Is there any phyciatrist out there who can give us a simple opinion.

    Posted by Peter | April 4, 2012, 12:27
  7. The only cult that I believe to be a danger to SVG citizens, is the Gonsalves cult. Where people support his every action, good, or more objectional evil or indecent and bad behaviour.

    Posted by Peter | April 4, 2012, 12:31
  8. PETER, you’re most DEFINITELY in NEED of a PSYCHIATRIST.

    Posted by VINCY POWA (@VINCYPOWA) | April 4, 2012, 12:56
  9. The man talks as if he has authority in all fields,as if he’s not just a criminal lawyer who was elected to serve the people of SVG.Visiting Bethlehem,a pope,or some trini religious sanctuary doesn’t make you the bishop of the Catholic Church,it’s about how one lives ones life,someone who says “I may lie some of the time” or a married man who gives “reassuring kisses”,has no religious authority

    Posted by Jahu | April 4, 2012, 14:02
  10. Seems like Gonsalves ate Peter white fowl.

    Posted by ulric | April 5, 2012, 01:22
  11. Worse than that he has wrecked the lives of most Vincentians except a selected few.

    Posted by Peter | April 5, 2012, 10:27
  12. A picture is worth a thousand(1,000) words!!! I want to thank the local non-partisan newspaper, “Searchlight” for that front page picture showing the entrance to the Diplomatic Mission in New York. Anyone can look at that picture and see that it coroborates what Ambassador Gonsalves said. In the picture, you can clearly see the barricades with the space between them for entrance purposes. The space is in the immediate vicinity of the police security both, I would say about ten feet. You can definitely see that this space between the barricade was provided for entrance, because as you can see, there are no other space anywhere else in the barricade; they are all fitted closely together where no one can walk through.
    I suspect that this officer was engaged in doing something else rather than paying attention to see who was coming and going, and apparently did not see Camillo exit the vehicle. His attention was probably focused elsewhere, and maybe as the Ambassador walked past his booth, he saw the movement out of the corner of his eyes,and when he looked up, Camillo had already gone past him. He panicked for fear of loosing his job, on seeing that Camillo was not white, and started to shout at him. The fact that Camillo paid him no attention made him panicked even further, and that’s when he over reacted, which has brought us to this point.
    Looking at the picture brought me to that conclusion. I may be wrong or I may be right. Everyone should look at that picture and it will help to put this situation in a better perspective.

    Posted by Eric Williams | April 5, 2012, 12:12
  13. Take the sleaziest man you can find make him pm,see how many people would watch the things he does and respect him.What does it profit a man to lose his soul but gain galvanize

    Posted by Jahu | April 5, 2012, 12:31
  14. We are all wasting our time on crap such as this. Gonsalves is trying to keep us all buisy to make us take our eye off the thing that counts most. THE ECONOMY!

    We are bankrupt, at the stage where we will not be able to pay bond and treasury bill owners their money when due. Its quite possible that the multi millions of dollars worth of bonds and treasury bills that Gonsalves and the ULP government have issued and sold, will become worthless.

    Moodies are looking at our situation and the issued bonds may be reduced in value to JUNK BONDS.

    Junk Bonds, Junk Government, Junk Administrators, Junk Ministers of the government and Church’s.

    Where did the Million US Dollars in cash come from that Frances took to the bank? Where did the US Dollars cash come from that was shared out by ULP Ministers and families, Senators and supporters? Where did it come from?

    This government is just like a banana,

    Posted by Peter | April 5, 2012, 16:45
  15. Yes Gonsalves give Vincentians something to fear and you will be the only one to save them right?. Everyone knows that their has always been people in every Caribbean countries who practice iniquity, the word Obeah wasn’t invented yesterday. This man needs to shut up, we want to hear about the economy, about job creation, about our banking system. We do not want to hear about your foolishness. Start acting like a man and do your job, we do not want to hear about the boogeyman from a Prime Minister, we do not want to hear about the NDP every freaking 5 minutes, we want to hear about what you have done last year to make St Vincent better this year. Our economy is in shambles, and i have never heard this man make any meaningful presentation about how he is going to turn the country around, Does he know people are hungry in St Vincent?.

    Posted by blane | April 5, 2012, 17:23
  16. Characteristics Associated with Cultic Groups – Revised
    Janja Lalich, Ph.D. & Michael D. Langone, Ph.D.

    Concerted efforts at influence and control lie at the core of cultic groups, programs, and relationships. Many members, former members, and supporters of cults are not fully aware of the extent to which members may have been manipulated, exploited, even abused. The following list of social-structural, social-psychological, and interpersonal behavioral patterns commonly found in cultic environments may be helpful in assessing a particular group or relationship:

    1.The group displays excessively zealous and unquestioning commitment to its leader and (whether he is alive or dead) regards his belief system, ideology, and practices as the Truth, as law.
    -WE NAAAH TUN BACK!!! KEEP THE FIRE BURNING!!!

    2.Questioning, doubt, and dissent are discouraged or even punished.
    WHO SHOT GLEN JACKSON?

    3.Mind-altering practices (such as meditation, chanting, speaking in tongues, denunciation sessions, and debilitating work routines) are used in excess and serve to suppress doubts about the group and its leader(s).
    I WUK OBEAH FUH DE LAWD!!

    4.The leadership dictates, sometimes in great detail, how members should think, act, and feel (for example, members must get permission to date, change jobs, marry—or leaders prescribe what types of clothes to wear, where to live, whether or not to have children, how to discipline children, and so forth).
    LUKE BROWNE MICHELE FIFE SABATO CEASAR

    5.The group is elitist, claiming a special, exalted status for itself, its leader(s) and members (for example, the leader is considered the Messiah, a special being, an avatar—or the group and/or the leader is on a special mission to save humanity).
    OWN THE CAMPAIGN! COMPARES HIMSELF TO JESUS; “YOU COULDN’T HAVE BEEN TALKING TO ME”.

    6. The group has a polarized us-versus-them mentality, which may cause conflict with the wider society.
    VINCENTIANS ARE THE LOWEST COMMON DENOMINATOR

    ‪ ‪ 7.The group teaches or implies that its supposedly exalted ends justify whatever means it deems necessary. This may result in members’ participating in behaviors or activities they would have considered reprehensible or unethical before joining the group (for example, lying to family or friends, or collecting money for bogus charities).
    THE MORGAN AFFAIRS; THE RENE AND NANO AFFAIRS;WALTERS THREATENING TO RUN OVER A POLICE OFFICER; DEFILEMENT OF A POLICEWOMAN.

    8.The leadership induces feelings of shame and/or guilt iin order to influence and/or control members. Often, this is done through peer pressure and subtle forms of persuasion.
    “I am a part of a team. I am part of a party and that decision, in the long run, will be made after a holistic assessment of several things, including the party’s input, the constituency’s input and, of course, my personal position,”-Douglas Slater on the question of running for reelection in 2010.
    “My integrity is well known. I have been an honest media person over the last 31 years, and no one should make mischief from my error,”-Elson Crick on his knees after throwing his leader under the bus by revealing the true date for the last election. It is said that Crick whipped himself for 40 days as an act of penitence to his leader Ralph.

    9.Subservience to the leader or group requires members to cut ties with family and friends, and radically alter the personal goals and activities they had before joining the group.
    FROM PRESS SECRETARY TO WANNABE KILLER

    10.The group is preoccupied with bringing in new members.
    ALBA, THE COALITION OF THE WILLING.

    11. The group is preoccupied with making money.
    The wanton sale of crown lands to white foreigners in Bequia and the Southern Grenadines, Mount Wynne and Peters Hope.
    Ralph appointed himself Chairman of the Committee established in 2007 to commemorate the 200th Anniversary of the abolition of the African Slave Trade. Ralph himself being a Portuguese and the Portuguese were the first set of Slave Traders; but the US $ 250 000.00 was at stake and apart from a solitary rained-out event that took place at heritage Square to mark the occasion, nothing else was done and people are asking what has become of the money.

    12. Members are expected to devote inordinate amounts of time to the group and group-related activities.
    WADE KOJO WILLIAMS

    13. The most loyal members (the “true believers”) feel there can be no life outside the context of the group. They believe there is no other way to be, and often fear reprisals to themselves or others if they leave (or even consider leaving) the group.
    VINCYPOWA!!!

    Posted by Saadiss | April 5, 2012, 17:52
  17. BLANE, do you REALIZE that Dr. Gonsalves was ANSWERING a QUESTION a CULT in SVG POSED by a REPORTER at the PRESS CONFERENCE?

    By the way, are you one of the persons, according to you, HUNGRY in St. Vincent?

    Posted by vincypowa | April 5, 2012, 21:56
  18. Is the satanic cult working with the trini assassins,and the other figments of his imagination..or did the illuminati conspire with the New World Order,who brought in the satanic cult,who hired the trini hitmen,all to stop him from building the airport,which would have saved the world had it been built as scheduled before election(the end of 2012).According to that theory the international airport and the cross country road,along with the stadium,would have added sufficient mass to the earth to prevent tilting or the shifting of the earth,thereby avoiding the meteor/magnetic shift or whatever is supposed to end the world in 2012 l.o.l some say it’s narcicistic personality disorder,others say it’s nastysickest personality disorder,nobody looking at the world bank reports,the imf report or the general state of svg believes there’s a competent leader running the country,or that there’s anyone at the wheel,the pilot is drunk but we naaaah tun back l.o.l “Own de national debt”,”own de galvanize”,”Own de rape charge”,”Own de corruption”,”Own de nonsense de pm talks”

    Posted by Jahu | April 6, 2012, 04:01
  19. Camillo should have screamed “rape”

    Posted by Joe | April 6, 2012, 04:24
  20. ERIC WILLIAMS, we have had a lot of idiots on here, now we have another one, YOU.

    From what I am told the barriers have 6′ walk ways through them at either end. The gap that you identify as an entrance is about 8″ wide, you stupid idiotic twerp. Whoever went through that gap would have to move the barricade to get through, and someone as fat as Donkey Gonsalves [father of Mule Gonsalves] would have to remove a whole barrier.
    Are you mentally ill or just another liar that is employed by Gonsalves, because an honest man would not put forward such a silly argument.

    If you support this Marxist scum regime in their lies you encourage them in their atrocities.

    Posted by Peter | April 6, 2012, 22:09
  21. SAADISS, thanks for the educational piece that you have written, its truly an education revolution.

    Very clever, thanks again.

    Posted by Peter | April 7, 2012, 16:21

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