Ambassador Gonsalves, NY cop should’ve acted differently – Opposition Leader

  •  ‘We do not believe that the government’s approach is in the best interest of the Vincentian diaspora in the USA.’ — Eustace

Opposition Leader Arnhim Eustace (File photo).

KINGSTOWN, St. Vincent – Opposition Leader Arnhim Eustace said Tuesday that Ambassador to the United Nations Camillo Gonsalves should not have stepped between the barricades in front of his embassy building in New York and should have shown his identification when asked by the cop who later arrested and handcuffed him last Wednesday.

He also said at a press conference that the New York Police Department officer acted disproportionally and inappropriately when he grabbed the envoy — the oldest son of Prime Minister Dr. Ralph Gonsalves — by the neck and shoulder.

Eustace, in outlining the position of his New Democratic Party (NDP), said that the opposition does not support the resolution of the situation by legal means but would not compromise the integrity of the inviolability of the nation’s diplomatic agents and missions overseas.

His statement, he said, would probably be his last on the development, which has been widely discussed by Vincentians at home an in the diaspora because he did not want to contribute to the incident’s “distraction of the public from other affairs which are more important to the lives and wellbeing of the people of our country”.

Prime Minister Gonsalves last Wednesday called Eustace and briefed him on the development and Eustace said he has read the report Ambassador Gonsalves submitted to the government, in addition to other media reports and communiqués from other CARICOM ambassadors on the development.

“In ideal circumstances, we will get more reports because this is an unfolding matter. More, I imagine, will be brought to light in due course,” he said.

Ambassador Gonsalves said in his report that on returning to his office after lunch, he stepped between the barricades as he has done for the past five years and the cop followed him into the lobby where he was arrested.

St. Vincent and the Grenadines Ambassador to the United Nations, Camillo Gonsalves (file photo).

Eustace said that the NDP adhere to “the letter and the spirit of the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic and Consular Relations,” adding that his party holds host nations of this country’s diplomatic missions and envoys “to the same vigorous adherence to the Convention”.

“We expect, however, a high level of pragmatism, understanding and cooperation on the part of our representatives, consistent with our position and aspiration as a small, developing country whose people are our greatest resource. Likewise, we expect full reciprocity on the part of our host nations,” he further said.

Eustace noted the Prime Minister’s announcement that his government was preparing a battery of lawyers to travel to the United States in relation to the incident.

“On behalf of the New Democratic Party, I wish to state categorically that we will not support the government in any legal action in this regard. It is our considered opinion in carrying forward this matter that the government should meet with the U.S. authorities with a view to amicable settlement in our best interest. We do not believe that the government’s approach is in the best interest of the Vincentian diaspora in the USA,” Eustace said.

He further said the government is facing financial constraints and can only meet such legal bills at expense of expenditure in other areas where it is more needed.

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37 thoughts on “Ambassador Gonsalves, NY cop should’ve acted differently – Opposition Leader

  1. Eustace a leader of class! Love him fuh so! Yes, once more subject ourselves to the mercy of the might USA even when we apparently in our rights.

    The NDP’s very clear foreign policy- “What will America Say?”

    Love you Ulrick! You take the cake! All of it!

    I am inspired by this statement and the possible future of SVG under his leadership. SVG will get very far with this very mangled policy in the international community.

    Best wishes is all I can to to Vincy

    Posted by Dean Peters (@splitdown) | April 3, 2012, 13:46
    • If you think eustace has class then its obvious your definition of class is the opposite that of the dictionary.IGNORANT FOOL.

      Posted by Jason | April 3, 2012, 16:33
  2. EUSTACE, don’t talk crap, if the policeman believed or there was a possibility that he thought Mule Gonsalves was a terrorist then he acted absolutely correctly. Should he have whispered hi there, sorry the barricades slowed you down, the Israeli embassy is on the 6th floor, don’t bother with your ID, I can see you look like a very nice Middle-East boy, hurry in now.

    The problem is that both he and his father Donkey Gonsalves have been so far up the ar.. of Iranians, Syrians and other scum people that they have started to look like them. Father and son could quite easily be mistaken for terrorists. Of course Donkey Gonsalves always looks like he is wearing and explosive vest because he is so grossly fat, and arrogant looking.
    Mule like his father is an arrogant man who obviously believes that he is someone grander than he is.

    I have a growing personnel belief that this whole matter was an orchestrated operation by a number of scum countries who want to try and embarrass the US government, with the help of the Gonsalves.

    My advice to the US CIA and FBI, I believe you should take greater interest in the Iranians and Syrians, and the Gonsalves.

    Why did Mule Gonsalves take a two and three-quarter hour luncheon on the day in question, had he been drinking.

    Mule Gonsalves is said to have got out of an official car, could the officer who was behind the barrier to the right some 50 feet away see the registration plate of the vehicle? possibly not.

    Mule Gonsalves moved the barrier and slipped through a non-pedestrianised entry point. There are entry points Mule Gonsalves decided not to use them.
    The police officer called to him asking him why he moved the barrier to enter, Mule Gonsalves who definitely heard the officer [because he since said so], decided to totally ignore the officer. Maybe this furthered the officers belief that Mule may be a terrorist.

    Mule Gonsalves then scurried at some speed across the area in front of the building, as he approached the door he was asked by the officer why he ignored him. As he reached the elevator the police officer grabbed him and rightly so, in fact the officer showed extreme courage approaching a young man who looked and behaved like a terrorist, and who refused to answer him. At no time during this period did Mule Gonsalves speak or tell the officer he was a diplomat or had diplomatic immunity. The police officer asked Mule Gonsalves why he ignored him, Gonsalves replied in an arrogant and insulting way “You could not of been talking to me” Police officer Parker asked Mule Gonsalves for his ID, Mule Gonsalves said am I being arrested? the Officer told him you are being arrested now.

    Now any one with half a brain would decide that Gonsalves was 100% wrong in his un-diplomatic actions.

    This Marxist scum family, have brought the whole of SVG into disrepute.

    I think Mule Gonsalves was very lucky that the police officer acted in extreme proportional and appropriately, otherwise he would of been shot dead.

    Just listened on radio to the crap by Donkey Gonsalves, he read a number of letters from countries who SVG have prostituted themselves, in return for money. All sorts of Marxist’s such as Renwick Rose and Sir Ronald Saunder and ex Marxist, CARICOM which is led by a wanted criminal.



    Posted by Peter | April 3, 2012, 14:24
  3. To all my Vincy brothers and sisters, at home and in the diaspora. All who are cognizant and knowledgeable of the history of Africans brought to the Western Hemisphere to provide slave labor for their white masters. We were kept in bondage for centuries and stripped of our dignity. Even after the abolishment of slavery, our people are still fragmented and most are still mentally enslaved. The question begs itself, why? Why are we still blighted after these many years of freedom.

    Ah ha! herein lies the answer, and the evidence is sprawled all over the pages of this forum and now moreso amplified by the statement made by our opposition leader today. The answer. DIVIDE CONQUOR AND RULE! DIVIDE CONQUOR AND RULE! DIVIDE CONQUOR AND RULE!

    Posted by Eric Williams | April 3, 2012, 14:42
    • Eric Williams…. What exactly is the point you are making here? What does this incident have to do with Slavery, Divide, conquor, and Rule?

      An incident happen between the SVG Ambassador and a NYPD officer. In any democratic process people will give their views depending on their interpretation of the information. Some people will speculate using their experiences and even their politics. Some people will look at the evidence presented and make a determination as to what transpired and what should or should not have happen. This is called FREEDOM of expression.

      So now I ask, how is that related to people being still blighted after these many years of FREEDOM? What is God’s name are you talking about? Are you suggesting that freedom means that we must look at everything through the eyes of biggotery? Are you suggesting that if Mr. Eustace concluded that after looking at the EVIDENCE that: 1. The Ambassador should have not walked through the police Barricade 2. He should have produced his ID when it was requested by the police and 3. That the police under the circumstance acted inappropriately, that Mr. Eustace is perpetuating..DIVIDE CONQUOR AND RULE! DIVIDE CONQUOR AND RULE! DIVIDE CONQUOR AND RULE! “WTF” are you talking about?

      Are you suggesting that under identical circumstances, it is OK for Black police to beatup black people but it is sacriledge for a white police to touch a blackman or a black police to touch a whiteman. And that somehow all of this relate to:” ….. slave labor for their white masters..We were kept in bondage for centuries and stripped of our dignity. Even after the abolishment of slavery, our people are still fragmented and most are still mentally enslaved…”

      Again I asked what the hell are you talking about?

      Posted by wehha | April 4, 2012, 12:08
      • Eric Williams, I hope I did not mis-interpret what you are alluding to. If I did, appologies.

        Posted by wehha | April 4, 2012, 12:31
  4. Eustace is indeed a leader of class, as a matter of fact too much class for vincy tribal politics;hence is sojourn in the political wilderness.

    Eustace’s statement on this issue was sensible and reasonable. To those looking for a full endorsement or outright condemnation, well you are just party hacks, sycophants of the highest order aka Dean Peters,

    Let me reiterate for the final time, Camillo acted like an ass by ignoring the officer irrespective of the manner in which he did so. Simply show your ID and then file an official complaint on the behavior of the officer if you were that offended. Had Camillo shown his ID and the cop still insist in acting a fool, then “Houston we have a problem”


    Posted by Saadiss | April 3, 2012, 15:35
    • SAADISS, who are the “ARSEHOLES” in the USA who made BARACK OBAMA show his BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Was it a COP in a BOOT stationed outside the WHITE HOUSE compound that had NO RIGHT to ask the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES to show his BIRTH CERTIFICATE?

      That said; tell us why the AMBASSADOR of St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Camillo Gonsalves, was SUPPOSED to show a cop stationed outside the PERMANENT MISSIONS BUILDING in a BOOT his ID card when he has not been ask to do so for over SIX MONTHS by the same officer who has been STATIONED at that LOCATION?

      Moreover, what is the role of the cop who is stationed outside of the building in a tiny boot near the Permanent Missions building?

      While you are at it, tell us why ordinary citizens can walk through or around that same barricade without that OUT OF PLACE cop stopping them for IDENTIFICATION.

      Why did the same COP never ask other DIPLOMATS who walked through or around that barricade to show him their IDENTIFICATION?

      Moreover, how come practically every PERMANENT Mission in that building has rallied around Ambassador Gonsalves of St. Vincent and the Grenadines on this matter, including Israel, if one has to BELIEVE, according to you, that Ambassador Gonsalves was WRONG for not showing the officer his ID CARD?

      You know what; I have an even BETTER APPRECIATION of why you deluded yourself into thinking that Eustace is a LEADER of CLASS. You and HE are CUT from the same CLOTH, NO BACKBONE, NO DIGNITY, just COWARDICES.

      You would READILY give up your RIGHTS if an OUT OF ORDER cop tells you to show him your ID without cause.

      Eustace is a “GOOD LITTLE BOY” who is always concerned about “WHAT WOULD AMERICA SAY” and it seems like you’re of a SIMILAR MINDSET, because you said that Ambassador Gonsalves should have FORFEITED his RIGHTS under the VIENNA CONVENTION, and even that of an ORDINARY CITIZEN, simply because an OUT OF PLACE COP in America TOLD him to SHOW him his IDENTIFICATION without REASON.

      You have no BALLS, NO SENSE of DIGNITY, NO SENSE of PATRIOTISM, NO SENSE of NATIONALISM, and no SHAME, because you are saying so-called African Americans in America should SURRENDER their rights under their constitution whenever a cop tells them to do something that is in VIOLATION of their rights under the LAW.

      We know that you are not a person that BLACKS can DEPEND on to FIGHT on their BEHALF when RACIST COPS in America VIOLATE their RIGHTS.

      Again, ROSA PARKS, MLK and all the BRAVE PERSONS who FOUGHT LONG and HARD for Blacks to have the same RIGHTS as their WHITE COUNTERPARTS are PROBABLY TURNING OVER in their GRAVES at your CONFORMIST BEHAVIOR as displayed on this matter involving your country’s Ambassador’s RIGHTS being VIOLATED by an OUT OF PLACE police officer.

      Posted by VINCY POWA (@VINCYPOWA) | April 4, 2012, 15:42
      • I wonder how rosa park and mlk would say about all the black comments ralph has made in his life, or about montgomery statements about who came in chains. You of all people should not even mention people’s names, you supported the “black” comments from ralph,and the nonsense from daniel.

        Posted by vincy in bad shape | April 5, 2012, 11:37
      • Powa, maybe the Vienna Convention is an aspirational document. Can you find out if it is or not.

        Posted by vincy in bad shape | April 5, 2012, 11:40
  5. Eustace need to shut his stupid ass kissing lips.

    Posted by Jason | April 3, 2012, 16:31
    • “Eustace need to shut his stupid ass kissing lips” Jason… Please explain yourself and tell us what exactly is the point you are making here! I will like to know. Whose ass is Eustace kissing here? Please point out for readers where is the stupidity by Eustace. Your comment does not help anybody here except to express your political hate for the opposition Leader. Tell me! How is that suppose to add value to this conversation?

      Posted by wehha | April 4, 2012, 12:43
  6. If they had ask another Ambassador of the Caribbean for their is ID, I wonder if they would have presented their ID.

    Posted by blane | April 3, 2012, 18:27
  7. I find the response by our opposition leader, Mr. Eustace, to ba balanced and level headed. It clearly demonstrates that everyone (no matter who we are, or think we are) has to act responsibly in the exercise of duty. In this case our ambassador, as well as the Nnew York City police officer. There is clearly nothing to gain here by being partisan. St. Vincent and the Grenadines has more to lose in a fractured relationship with the US. At times even when we are right on certain matters it is better to exercise diplomacy and tact, which bode well for future ties. Let’s keep our focus on the greater good for all in the long term, rather than on the short sighted personal pride of the immediate here and now..

    Posted by DWells | April 3, 2012, 18:38
    • DWELLS, tell us why EVERY PERMANENT MISSION in that BUILDING, including ISRAEL, SUPPORTS Ambassador Gonsalves on this issue.

      Mr. Eustace, FRANKLY, is an EMBARRASSMENT to St. Vincent and the Grenadines.

      He has NO BACKBONE and NO DIGNITY.

      People would WALK ALL OVER our COUNTRY if Mr. Eustace was the PRIME MINISTER. He is a COWARD…always CONCERNED about what WOULD AMERICA SAY.

      By the way, America just SIGNED BILATERAL AGREEMENTS with the GOVERNMENT of St. Vincent and the Grenadines, under the LEADERSHIP of PRIME MINISTER GONSALVES, this MORNING.

      Again, Mr. EUSTACE is an EMBARRASSMENT to the NATION called St. Vincent and the Grenadines.

      Posted by VINCY POWA (@VINCYPOWA) | April 4, 2012, 16:09
  8. I hope the NYPD don’t end up with a house up gorse,an ice cream shop,and an interior decorating business when they file their countersuit,amercan lawyers are better at lawsuits,and it’s an election year in the USA so you know they wont back down.Imagine if the poiceman ends up with all the assets of the Gonsalves family,it’ll be like winning the new york lotto.But seriously the govt of SVG needs t donate some galvanize to the UN,because Galvanize barracades are harder to move

    Posted by Joe | April 3, 2012, 19:09
    • JOE, you’re TRULY a JOE.


      JOE, go and EDUCATE your MIND on these MATTERS instead of EMBARRASSING yourself and your COUNTRY.

      Posted by VINCY POWA (@VINCYPOWA) | April 4, 2012, 16:00
  9. Camillo Borgia should have acted differently

    Posted by Joe | April 3, 2012, 21:01
  10. There are two sides to this story. there is camillo version and there is the NY Police version. The PM said the tapes, showing what exactly happened, will be made available to us soon. So instead of speculating and blaming the ambassador why dont we all wait. Also while waiting why dont we just show some partiotism for once nah. I am not looking at camillo as the PM son at this time. I am viewing him as the representative of St Vincent an the grenadines. When will we put party politices aside and focus on St Vincent for a change. I have a Jamaican friend who is laughing at how stupid some of us Vincentians are on this issue. Because camillo is Ralph’s son so many of us are ready to throw him under the bus – totally ignoring he is an ambassador and that he is representing St. Vincent. Shame on some of us

    Posted by proud vincy | April 4, 2012, 10:03
  11. ERIC WILLIAMS, thank you for pointing out the Gonsalves strategy “divide and rule” you are quite right that is exactly how he has destroyed the SVG peoples “together now hope”.

    ULP people in SVG sneak report their NDP family members, nieghbours, and friends to the Gonsalves ULP, those persons are removed from their jobs and will never again get a job without a ULP party card.

    Thank you Eric for reminding us.

    Posted by Peter | April 4, 2012, 12:45
  12. SAADIS,
    I don’t know why what you are saying is so difficult for persons to understand. Obviously a lot of these people do not know the laws of the U.S and how police officers operate and are only trying to add their own spin to the issue with no basis.
    Nearly all Vincies know that Camillo is the ambassador and can probably recognize him. I’ll be very surprise if you find one NYPD officer who knew him before this incident.

    Word of advice to all of you: if ANY police officer in ANY part of the U.S stops you or try to get your attention or confronts you in any manner (harsh, arrogant, or whatever), you better stop and comply.

    Otherwise, your *ss will end up in handcuffs until they can verify your story or until you are granted bail. Obviously if they find out AFTERWARDS that you are a diplomat, you will be released. Otherwise, prepare for a night in the slammer with all kinds of charges in yo backside. From evading arrest, resisting arrest, failure to identify, assault on a police officer, etc, etc. You better don’t do what the ambassador did [before they found out he was an ambassador].

    You don’t have to take my foolish advice; just try it.

    Posted by BAGGA | April 4, 2012, 14:11
  13. “Proud Vincy” what exactly are you proud of,nobody would have selected Camillo except his father,I personally know of several poorer vincentians who have better credentials/degrees etc in international affars and would have been far better suited to be ambassador.The father is Pm son is ambassador makes us look like a backwards “donkey” country,or some dictatorship nation,do you think this nonsense could happen in any other country.Camillo shouldn’t have been there in the first place,I blame the person/s who selected him.For Example if I have an obnoxious son I wouldn’t send him anywhere where his very attitude could cause conflict.Breaking a barricade is like watching someone in a suit jump a wall,it’s neither diplomatic nor classy

    Posted by Jahu | April 4, 2012, 16:49
    • JAHU,what are the names of the SEVERAL POORER VINCENTIANS who have BETTER CREDENTIALS than CAMILLO?

      Ladies and gents, he will be UNABLE to give any NAMES. It is the USUAL NONSENSE TALK from those who supports a party that is not ready to manage a mauby shop much less a country.

      Posted by vincypowa | April 5, 2012, 01:02
  14. ‘We do not believe that the government’s approach is in the best interest of the Vincentian diaspora in the USA.’ — Eustace

    I just have to LAUGH at the IDIOCY of Mr. Eustace.

    The things that are going through my mind as I read the IDIOCY of this man is just too DAMNING to SHARE.

    I will take SOLACE in the FACT that Mr. Eustace is an OLD MAN who is TOTALLY OUT OF TOUCH of what is going on around the globe, therefore I will FORGIVE HIM for his UNINFORMED RAMBLINGS

    Mr. Eustace, it is TIME for you to RETIRE from active politics, because you are totally out of touch of what is going in the world.

    You are the same man who said that you did not know there was so much poverty in SVG when you when your party, the NDP, governed this nation for 17 consecutive years.

    If you are out of touch with what is going in your own backyard, just imagime how out of touch you are with the outer world

    Posted by vincypowa | April 4, 2012, 18:27
  15. @ Jahu I am a proud Vincentian because we are a souverign country and we are holding our own. We may be small but we are strong and we are developing and many of our nationals can match anyone in the wider society. This is the land of my birth and i will be forever patriotic. If you dont feel the same them you deal with that. So what is camillo is Dr Gonsalves son and also the ambassodor. I am sure he is more than qualify for the job. Are you the one responsible for selecting embassadors? Are you the one who knows more than anyone else and knows who is best suited for what post.? If Our country is undemocratic for letting the son of the PM be an embassodor then I guess the great USA is umdemocratic also because the son of George Bush was also the president of the USA. I wish that some of you can stop hating Ralph for a split second to be patriotic enough to realise that what happend to Camillo was an affront on St Vincent and the Grenadines. All the Caribbean countries and many other countries are supporting Camillo and some of his own people cant support him. As Vincypowa said can you name a few of those who you and you alone know is more qualified to replace camillo?

    Posted by proud vincy | April 5, 2012, 09:55
  16. Now we see Gonsalves real spite in operation, remember I said watch out for the spite. Donkey Gonsalves has now said he will not sue the US government, he will not Sue the City of New York, he will sue the police officer, personally. Nasty spiteful Gonsalves family.

    Well I have looked into such and action and can tell you that the officer is protected by his union and the city. Litigation will cost him nothing. So sue away Gonsalves scum bags.

    Seeing as this is a personal spite thing, Gonsalves pay for the litigation yourselves, because we in SVG do not want any part of it.

    Family of Cowards.

    Posted by Peter | April 5, 2012, 10:45
    • PETER, U R a NUT.

      I want you to show where Dr. Gonsalves had stated, at ANYTIME, that he would sue the US GOVERNMENT.

      I won’t hold my breath because I KNOW you cannot SUPPLY the EVIDENCE, because he has NEVER EVER made any such PRONOUNCEMENT.

      Posted by vincypowa | April 5, 2012, 18:21
  17. People like Joel Karl Richards and other vincentians who were trained in international relations,what’s the point of a revolution in education if only dotish party people get ambassadorships etc.Even the lauders plant people are laughable.Camillo should be replaced with Joel Karl Richards or another more qualified Vincentian

    Posted by Jahu | April 5, 2012, 12:00
  18. A picture is worth a thousand(1,000) words!!! I want to thank the local non-partisan newspaper, “Searchlight” for that front page picture showing the entrance to the Diplomatic Mission in New York. Anyone can look at that picture and see that it coroborates what Ambassador Gonsalves said. In the picture, you can clearly see the barricades with the space between them for entrance purposes. The space is in the immediate vicinity of the police security both, I would say about ten feet. You can definitely see that this space between the barricade was provided for entrance, because as you can see, there are no other space anywhere else in the barricade; they are all fitted closely together where no one can walk through.
    I suspect that this officer was engaged in doing something else rather than paying attention to see who was coming and going, and apparently did not see Camillo exit the vehicle. His attention was probably focused elsewhere, and maybe as the Ambassador walked past his booth, he saw the movement out of the corner of his eyes,and when he looked up, Camillo had already gone past him. He panicked for fear of loosing his job, on seeing that Camillo was not white, and started to shout at him. The fact that Camillo paid him no attention made him panicked even further, and that’s when he over reacted, which has brought us to this point.
    Looking at the picture brought me to that conclusion. I may be wrong or I may be right. Everyone should look at that picture and it will help to put this situation in a better perspective.

    Posted by Eric Williams | April 5, 2012, 12:10
  19. If a foreign diplomat disrespected local police,our pm would probably have him deported and go on a crazy rant,do- so aint like-so

    Posted by Jahu | April 5, 2012, 12:41
  20. Reading From the Ulp Bible,the book of Ralph chapter 6 verse 8,”touch not the Ralph’s appointed” l.o.l Camillo didn’t get abused,abuse was what was meted out to the parliamentarians,abuse was what was done to everyone’s favourite communist under the labour govt

    Posted by Jahu | April 5, 2012, 15:19
  21. JAHU, you only provided ONE NAME, so where are the OTHER NAMES?

    Did you FORGET what you said?

    Since it appears that you have, allow me to REMIND you.

    “I personally know of several poorer vincentians who have better credentials/degrees etc in international affars and would have been far better suited to be ambassador.”

    Since you PERSONALLY know of SEVERAL poorer Vincentians, how come you only provided one name??

    By the way, what are Joel Karl Richards CREDENTIALS that would have MADE HIM SUITED to be a BETTER AMBASSADOR than Camillo Gonsalves, and how OLD is this YOUNG FELLA?

    Posted by vincypowa | April 5, 2012, 18:36
  22. @Eric Wlliams,Camillo is whiter than most caribbean representatives to the un,and whiter than most members of the un.The nypd were probably profiling ignorant looking people,because most terrorist look like ignorant people,and he had a beard,most terrorists have a beard

    Posted by Joe | April 6, 2012, 04:38
  23. Camillo bears a resemblance to Richard Reid ,the jamaican shoe bomber,the policeman mght have thought Richard Reid had escaped and was going after the israelis

    Posted by Joe | April 6, 2012, 04:45


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